What happened?

I'd like to say things started out great, but they didn't. At an early point I figured it was a scam, but I wanted to know for sure. So I risked $100 and lost it. In a nutshell, I ordered four 3.5" White Butterfly Discus for 23$ each including delivery with a minimum order of four. Things got very suspicious with the mode of payment, as it was a company I had never heard of before, and when they refused to complete the transfer of monies, I should have taken it as a sign. But, I played through and went with plan B which was Western Union, and for my troubles, Lucian offered a 5th Discus at no charge..

The fish were scheduled to arrive that same night (which was also suspect, but again - playing it through) except when they "arrived" in Phoenix, there were now twelve instead of the five I was promised. Now the Nguyen Kio Fish Farm stepped in. They insisted I pay for all of them before delivery and that - if I agreed to that - the delivery guy (transhipper) would pay me the difference ($160) in cash and I could select the individual fish I wanted from the twelve.  When I told them I wanted to see the fish before I paid any more money, they said "no deal" and refused me my original fish. 

The entire transcripts between both parties are copied at the links below if you're interested. I just don't want this happening to anyone else, so I'm sharing it with you. These guys are crooks and you won't get your fish.

Lucian Nguyen: The Salesman

This is the transcript of my conversation with Lucian Nguyen on August 11, 2021. This is how it began. It all started when I answered an ad about tropical fish on Facebook. His broken English and short sentences were because he was from another country, right? 

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Nguyen Kio Fish Farm: The Frauds

Once Lucian had set the scene for a tank filled with beautiful inexpensive Discus, it was up to his partners to do the bait and switch. They weren't good at it, either, but conmen aren't often the smartest tools in the shed to begin with.

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